The news stories say that the man shot by the police had 14 warrants. Mentioned usually are a Driving without a license and failure to wear a seatbelt. What are the other twelve warrants for?
- G. Dorich, Chicago

How can you make a point that you are treated unfairly by breaking the law with such acts as looting and destruction of property? The property owners never did anything to the people who are rioting.
- T. Lanford, Richmond, Va.

If the mother Mrs. Leisure had been a responsible parent she would have made sure her son took care of his legal troubles instead of letting him run wild around the city. He would have received fair treatment under the laws the rest of us have to abide by. Instead he is dead, the city is a mess, businesses have been ruined, taxpayers will foot the bill, Cincinnati now has a seriously tarnished reputation. And this is the fault of city council? I don't think so.
- Daniel, Denver

I have read the majority of the postings and find them quite disturbing. I have lived in Cincinnati for over 7 years and although, I don't live in OTR. I can see the difference between the lifestyles of those that have $$ and those that don't. CINCINNATI OPEN YOUR EYES!!! Years of neglecting a group of people while funneling millions of dollars into their surroundings (i.e. ballpark, malls, etc.) was a ticking time bomb. Meanwhile, the public schools are falling down around them, teachers are overworked and insensitive to the social ills of the poverty that exists there. To me the issue isn't just racial, there also exists a lack of COMPASSION in general. This society breeds the mentality of "I got mine, you go get yours" and to hell with anyone that made need help.
- Anonymous

ENOUGH about Timothy Thomas's mother. What about Ofc. Roach's mother, Ofc. Roach's family? Their lives have been turned upside down, as well. I'm sure Ofc. Roach's mother loves her son and is in agony over what he must be going through. Give us a story on the WHITE side of this situation.
-S. Patterson, Cincinnati

Stop punishing the police for doing the job that they were hired to do; start holding the criminals responsible for reckless, dangerous behavior. Don't lecture some readers, fanning their anger and resentment; advise others to quit thinking that they are victims, trapped in a system that is out to get them.
- J. Bearcat, Chicago

The sad thing is that you can't legislate morality. While we don't necessarily have to live in the same neighborhood, we do have to show common respect to each other. As it is now, Whites are afraid, and Blacks can't really say what it is they want. With all the emotionalism, no clear heads have really prevailed. The local media could be a huge help in the process of understanding. In fact, I challenge the local media to put aside politics and competition for once and set up a simulcasted town hall forum with personalities represented from each station. Instead of the usual voices you hear from the Black community (i.e: so - called "community leaders") we should only hear from those who wouldn't ordinarily have the chance to speak. Make it an open and HONEST dialog. Ask the questions we've always thought about but never had the chance to ask. Above all else, Keep it CIVIL!
- M. Gunn, Norwood

Cincinnati deserves everything it is experiencing. I am an Alumni of Xavier University and an African-American male. My personal experiences with Cincinnati police have been despicable. I have been pulled over numerous times for NO REASON, I repeat for NO REASON, except for the fact the I was black! The rage and humiliation I felt, time and time again, gives me ample reason to support the protesters in Cincinnati! Look at the way the city dealt with this whole thing. 15 African American males die and nothing is done, but one white police officer is shot in his belt buckle and then it is finally recognized that we have a racial problem! 15 to 1 I guess in Cincinnati blacks still aren't equal.
- MAA

I do not understand the difference between the racial profiling by the police and the racial profiling by the citizens that riot. Pulling white citizens from their cars and beating them just because they are white? Please explain why this is different from what they are accusing the police of. I am from Miami and this has happened here. I did not understand it then and I do not understand it now.
- Anonymous

I personally think that it's a tragedy that Timothy Thomas was shot, but I also think that it's a tragedy what happened afterwards. There is no reason to destroy so many buildings and businesses and buildings to try and prove a point, because the only point that it proved was stupidity. The only effective way to protest is peacefully.
- A. Fehring, Batavia

The national arrogance and total disrespect of white police officers for all black people, particularly black men. They have no regard for black life, don't give a damn about repercussions and have no trouble sleeping at night. I do not consider myself, a black female, as "African-American" because America's constitution does not apply to me so I drop the "American" half. I pray for our black men, young and old across this nation and I pray that they all will pick up a sociology book and read it from front to back. There they will find the answers to what happened in Cincinnati. A must read also, Carter G. Woodson's "The mis-education of the Negro".
- Diane, Philadelphia

I have been very upset with the media's coverage of these incidents. I think that it is the media's job to give the facts and not put their own spin on the events. Like the alleged unprovoked shooting after Thomas' funeral. I understand that you are taking the accounts from the people in the crowd but stating that as fact is just wrong. How about supporting the police. What else is going on with the officer that was shot? Are you following up on that? As for my own experiences, I am looking for permanent entertainment outside of the downtown area. My life and that of my wife's is not worth going downtown and possibly being assaulted because we happened to be white and in the wrong place at the wrong time.
- B. Merz, Cincinnati

I would like to ask A. Martin, Cincinnati if white people are allowed to drive in Cincinnati with expired tags? And I would like to know if the Governor attends every dead criminal's funeral? And why are the white race bending over backward to appease the black race? Why isn't anyone upholding a policeman's life or death decision? The police should have struck in the middle of the riots. I feel sorry for officer Roach because he will be railroad by politicians hungry for a vote. I think the governor should have to patrol the streets of downtown if he thinks this man had such a bright future, what could that consist of other than escalating to felony's.
- Anonymous

To put it simply: 25% of the people involved with the happenings in Cincinnati were doing so to protest what they perceived as police brutality. As for the rest: It is testimony to what happens to young adults when they are raised by mothers or fathers who have very few, if any, parenting skills.
- Anonymous

I'd like to know where and when Timothy held his last job. I know he was due to start a new job, but if I had a baby to care for, I wouldn't quit one job before starting the new job. Maybe if he had to get up early for work he wouldn't be out at 2:00AM.And if he had a job all along, why didn't he take care of the warrants?
- Darlene

I have black neighbors, they have a nice house, cars - they take pride in these things. That is one thing (pride) that they have, that most of the people rioting don't have. We could also talk about respect and responsibility. Do you know what my neighbors do right? They get up and go to work everyday!!!!
- Wanda

This problem stems from terrible inner city schools combined with extravagant tax spending for the rich of our community. The Arts Center (why should government get involved in this?), a quick $100 mil. The really pathetic stadiums, all told over a billion dollars there. And schools. Well they get nothing. In fact if a flower blooms in the city school system it is plucked and dragged out to suburbs for their affluent kids to use. Case in point, Sands Montessori School, which is quite a popular and good inner school, now being moved to the suburbs. When was the last new inner city school built? I don't know for sure but I would say it had to be in the sixties. Why is it that we insist that poor people be stupid people? And then we react in shock when they don't respect the police, destroy other's property, and inflict harm on innocent bystanders.
- J. Whitling

Now we have the lame proposal of reparations for slavery being brought up again. Which is a ludicrous and frivolous claim. Blacks in this country have been more than compensated ever since the Civil Rights Act was made into law. Quotas, affirmative action, government subsidies, etc. all add up to trillions of dollars already spent in the effort to "right the wrongs" of history whereas blacks are concerned. Now they want more of what they didn't earn? Please... To the (African) American community, if you want reparations why don't you tell your kids to reap their opportunities, apply themselves in school, get a good job and be a law abiding person and maybe both you and your children will see that financial and social success you keep telling your kids now that they will never achieve.
- Dillon, Beaverton, Ore.

By reading these posts, it is obvious to me that Cincinnati is definitely racially divided. Whites don't seem to understand that often times if you're black, you don't have to have committed a crime for cops to mess with you. They will provoke you, taunt you, say really negative things about blacks right to your face. We are all human and if someone is constantly attacking you verbally, you will eventually say something back and that's when your troubles begin. But because white people don't have to endure this type of negative behavior of police, they think it's non-existent and we all must have broken the law to have the cops harass you.
- VT, Cincinnati

Somehow the police officers need to be held accountable and responsible and the general public needs to know that Cincinnati is one city of many in the US, and the potential for the same situation is in all of us and is possible anywhere. The riots are a cry for help and an expression of the hopelessness present in these situations. We are all a reflection of our thoughts and actions.
- A. Sabina, Williamsport, Penn.

Again it is disturbing to me to read some of the racist opinions in the column. The bottom line is the police need to better their training and try to avoid using deadly force and the city of Cincinnati needs to recognize that racism does exist. It exists to this day! I symphathize with Timothy Thomas's mother. You are a very strong, black courageous mother. Keep holding on to God's unchanging hand. He will not let you fall!
- Anonymous

First of all, racist organizations like the NAACP and the "black panthers" should be abolished. All they do is stir more hate and controversy which we certainly do not need at this point. If you watched Kweisi Mfume debate with Officer Fangman on numerous talk shows, Officer Fangman backed up his argument with FACTS, Mfume backed his up with hate, disrespect, and the threat of violence. Get rid of the Mfume's, the Sharpton's, and the Jesse Jackson's of the world and we would all be living in a better place. Whatever happened 400 years ago HAPPENED 400 YEARS AGO. Let's move on huh?
- Anonymous

I think every white and black person should go to their computer or the library and read the 1712 speech written by Willie Lynch. It tells how whites were instructed to control their slaves by instilling fear, distrust and turning them against one another. He guaranteed his method would work for the next three hundred years, maybe a thousand. His message is prevalent today, that's why our whole system of blacks against whites and blacks against blacks came to pass. White people want us to distrust and hate one another. They also have a system designed where we HAVE to depend on them for our very survival. It is so sad and very disheartening.
- JC, Cincinnati

I just have a suggestion. Please take a bus ride through the areas where most of the African American people live in Cincinnati. Then try to count and compare the number of young mothers with children and that of fathers accompanying their children. There are days you will not find one father walking or taking the bus with his kids. The kids can be seen either playing by themselves, or accompanied by their mothers, some of whom are very young and perhaps unwed (which was the case of Thomas' girlfriend). Yet no one seems willing to address this tragic issue. Where are the fathers? Who gives these young kids the emotional, academic, and economic support they need in order to succeed?
-A. Botica, Cincinnati

Whites and blacks need to get together and show the police that it's not us, it's them, and if you knew Tim like I did, then you would know that he's was not a bad person. He was the least expected to die... if I could take his place I would.
- Mario, Covington

We all need to learn more about our neighbors and the solutions are not short term. People of all types need to be thrown together in as many ways as possible so we can see that ALL people are the same... In my mind, the single best way to get people to interact and understand each other is for us to have a genuine mass transit system. People will then have to be thrown together, talk to each other, and of course we will improve the quality of our air as well as decreasing the emission of warming gases. It will also increase the mobility of the inner city population and allow them to go where the jobs are.
- K. Kant, Cincinnati

I am appalled and disgusted by the Enquirer's choice of Angela Leasure (of all people!) mother of Timothy Thomas, as a feature topic in today's Unrest in the City section. Quite frankly I think that I speak for many citizens who are tired of hearing about Ms. Leasure, especially in contrast to nothing being written about Officer Roach who has been deified by merit of performing his job under extraordinary conditions. What about Officer Kevin Crayon, the officer slain in the line of duty and the subsequent criticism and blame for the youth's death? And where is the coverage of President's Bush's statement regarding Cincinnati that he endorses the Police Department?
- Barbara, Clifton

Reading this message board has revealed a disturbing state of mind of many Cincinnati residents: the thought that if Officer Roach "gets off" there will be more unrest. The public needs to understand that until the results of the investigation are released, we are all just guessing about what actually happened -- ALL of us. We do know that Thomas was shot in the chest, NOT the back, and therefore was not "fleeing" but had turned to face his pursuer. And many police officers have been killed by suspects who turned into an alley, drew a weapon, and ambushed them. This does not excuse the actions of the officer, but simply writing him up as a racist, a thug, a liar, etc., before all the facts have been revealed is ridiculous. The fact is that ALL the officers -- black and white -- who patrol the streets of OTR daily are doing so to HELP the black community. That is who lives there, so how could they behave otherwise!
- D. Katona, Tallahassee, Fla.

I think it is bullcrap and believe the Blacks, not the African Americans create the problems themselves. Its the way they live. If they went out to work and got a job and would stay off the streets at 2:30 in the morning like normal people they wouldn't have to run.
- D. Goodwin, Williamsburg, Ohio

Cincinnati is populated by a bunch of red-neck, cracker, hillbillies. A race riot of this nature could never ever happen in cosmopolitan southern cities such as Atlanta or Charlotte.
- Anonymous

I am on the other side of the fence, the one that has not been interviewed, nor spoken of during this time. I am a Police Officer. I have heard this cry before. Racism is alleged in thousands of arrests yearly, but the simple fact gets lost in the uproar, the simple fact that someone broke the law. I am not trying to minimize the fact that a human being lost his life. I would be the first to make an arrest in this case if the facts bear out criminal intent. The problem here is that we do not know the facts, and we are rushing to judgment on an Officer that quite possibly had no criminal intent. It is quite probable that he reacted just as he was trained. I wish that the agitators would let the system, a system they recently changed and put in place, run it's course. I have 2 questions to throw out for consideration. First, what will the agitators' reaction be if the Officer is not indicted for this shooting? Second, with this question in the back of so many minds, can this Officer receive a fair hearing in front of the Grand Jury? Only time will tell. Personally, my family and I will not be in downtown Cincinnati any time soon.
- J. Hamilton

Personally I am sick and tired of hearing about it. In my mind it is done and over with move on. Start teaching people not to run from the police and respect their authority. If you run, you are guilty. It is only a black and white issue when a black person is shot not when a white person is shot. There have been too many cops shot and you don't hear anything about it (Pope, Jeters, Parton, etc). Why is that? Everything starts at home these parents should be doing something about their children that are out all hours of the night and destroying other people's property, selling drugs, killing each other, running from police, shooting police and trying to intimidate others.
- Anonymous

The Constitution says that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. When a police officer kills someone, they are acting as judge, jury and executioner. Wake up Cincinnati! I thought this was supposed a caring city. Open those closed minds and help those who are in need. It seems that those who "have" are too quick to blame, and judge those who "have not." Jesus said, "who are you to point out the speck in another man's eye, when you have a plank over your own eyes." I believe that the recent violence, deep down, is a cry for help. Granted, destruction is not the most positive way to go about it, but it has been done, it's over, and now it is up to the ENTIRE Cincinnati community to help solve the problem. Don't judge, don't criticize, don't avoid. HELP! It is not "their" problem, it is "OUR" problem.
- Anonymous

Hit the matter head on. I know people are using this shooting to bring out racial problems in Cincinnati, but as crazy as it may sound, I think the shooting was more about crime than color. Some of the other shootings may have been about color, but I honestly believe that under those circumstances even the Pope what have been shot.
- P. Smith, Woodlawn

It's sad that all the businesses that got affected were damaged by the rioters, but the rioters chose to tear up their own neighborhoods. If they were so upset about the racial conflicts, then you would think they would take it out on the white neighborhoods, not ruin their own even more. They're the ones without local businesses now. I'm sure some of the business owners knew plenty of the rioters, and just figured it was all the city's fault, not the ignorant rioters.
- Liz, Columbus

I blame the way we feel on the media. I don't know if any the readers realized this, but the media is making us think the way we are. None of us know what happened so we need to wait for a thorough investigation before we jump to conclusions. Maybe it was racist maybe it wasn't. There are a lot of question regarding this that none of us have answers too, I think in some situations police are very stressed out with the job and their personal life, which causes them to lie, and they lie a lot and that doesn't help the publics attitude when they don't trust the police, personally I don't trust the police, but if you say freeze I'm going to freeze no doubt about that.
- Lynda, Boston, Mass.

My experience is disgust from reading all the whining dribble sent in by people too "gutless" to list themselves as "anonymous". If you feel that strongly...sign your name to it. I seldom agree with Bill Cunningham because I realize he's just soliciting listenership to WLW, but I do concur with him when he says that all races have access to the same English and Math books...have access to the knowledge of what our laws are...misdemeanor and otherwise. Hardly anyone can be accused of being stupid anymore...unless they choose to be on purpose.
- S. Faulks, Troy, Ohio

We got to start instilling values back in our country as a whole. Look at our YOUTH!! Columbine (all white)for example. Color has nothing to do with the problems we created. Life is no longer respected period. You take a country who has implemented a law for mass murder on innocent babies, the beginning of life and it says it all. Life is not VALUED in our country today. We have been sending this message to our children for the past thirty years and now are suffering the consequences of our actions!
- F. Gruesser, Liberty Township

I think the African American Organizations that were given money to help the youth and housing in their area should not be allowed to handle any of the money. They proved once they have no interest in helping, they spent the money, but can't account for it! A group of outsiders (who care)with accountability should be in charge with an auditor watching every move. That way the home and youth will receive what they deserve
- M. Gray, Southgate, Ky.

Another live has been taken, whether it be black or white. The enemy has accomplished a life and destroyed another life. One is dead and the other will never be the same. That officer no matter what his mind set is about black people will never be the same. I hope his change will be for the better. To my brother that is gone, may he rest in peace!! To the mother, may God bless and keep you in his perfect peace. Cincinnati has had a rude awakening. The walls that divide Church and State must come down. Unity is needed and Cincinnati must come together as one. We took God out of the schools and everywhere we could and without him we are nothing.
- J. Ward, Cincinnati

I have had a feeling of being sick to my stomach. Racism makes me sick (literally). I understand people speaking out against the unfairness about treatment by police, but now they are putting everything the police do under a microscope. They still have a job to do you know. Do we want police or not? Address those issues that need to be addressed but let them do their job the rest of the time and support them. If they're right, they're right. I can't help but look at black people with suspicion and I think they probably look at me the same way. There is a lot of tension and I think that progress which has been made in race relations have been pushed back 10 years.
- A. Collins, Cincinnati

I think this whole thing has been ridiculous. Tim Thomas knew what he was doing. He outran police on two other occasions as they were trying to arrest him for his outstanding warrants. He knew this. For his mother to get on TV and tell the rest of the world that "any black man will run when stopped by the police" is nothing but stupidity. Do all black people think this way? I don't think so. There are three types of people that do this: People carrying drugs or weapons and people running form the law or their past. What these people need is a basic education, which happens to be provided free to all citizens. Seems to me that when an officer shouts at me to "Stop, or I'll shoot," I would stop as the alternative may be what Tim Thomas got, death. It's unfortunate yes, but he got exactly what he asked for.
- G. Coburn, Ft. Thomas

My ex husband is a police officer in another city in Ohio. I hear the African American mothers saying they are afraid for their sons to go out at night, worrying that they may not come home. I also worried every night as my husband went to work, and he was just doing his job. People that break the law make a choice. If they are caught they make another choice, run or face their punishment. Even though I feel for the mothers, they must realize that families of police officers face this fear daily. Even now, although I am divorced, I still worry about him being shot on the job. I don't want to be the one to have to tell our two daughters that their father was killed doing his job. Everyone of every race needs to teach their children that if they obey the law, they have nothing to fear. When you make a choice, you must face the consequences of that choice.
- T. Shuttleworth, Cincinnati

It disgusts me what people have been saying in their comments about this situation. It is sick to hear them describe blacks as "those people," jerks, etc. Do the people who thing so negative about blacks really understand the black community's feelings? We are human beings! We breathe, bleed, hurt just like the white community or anyone else. We also work hard everyday to provide for our families as well as the next. I don't care if a black person does live in government assisted housing, they have a voice and it deserves to be heard concerning these issues of police brutality/racism.
- Anonymous

The first priority is to have the police armed with non-lethal weapons only. This killing over misdemeanors has to stop. The repetitive "I thought he was armed" or "I thought he was reaching for a gun" no longer flies. Another immediate measure is a concentrated effort to educate young Black men on what to do when they are confronted by the police. I believe that this has had some success in other cities. Long term, we need charter amendments for a city Civil Service so fired policemen can stay fired. We need to have the freedom to select the best possible and most experienced person for the position of chief and stop this business of always promoting from within which has helped create this very ingrown force. It might also be a good idea to return to requiring that the police personnel live in the city. I suspect further diversity training will probably not be effective unless there is change in the top leadership.
- G. Black, Cincinnati

I think it is pretty sad that we cannot get the victims (business owners and people that were injured) of last weeks events whole without them suffering any financial losses. We are willing to offer Nordstrom's sinful amounts of monies to come to town...we build stadiums with overruns.. we do little to make the schools proper buildings to educate children... we really have our priorities in the wrong places. I personally was so relieved that Nordstroms was not coming to Cincinnati. Cincinnati needs to take a step back and look at what is really important. We really need to set better priorities. I would like for someone to explain why Nordstroms and the Bengal's were worth millions of dollars and why we don't have the money to rebuild the small businesses that lost so much after giving so much to our city.
- Anonymous

Cincinnati and American must come to realize that we have gangs of one racial group committing interracial personal crimes against European Americans in extraordinarily high rates and the Civic Leaders and the Interlopers must address THAT problem. Talk of employment opportunities for the perpetrators is outrageous with a 4.5% unemployed rate in America. The numbers of the perpetrator group that are employed by the Police Department, a reported 28% is excessively high already when you consider QUALIFIED applicants competing with all racial groups for those jobs.
- L. Calabro, San Bruno, Calif.

Have the Federal Govt. or another City/State come in and review the practices and actions of Cincinnati. The city's creditability needs to be restored by either making necessary changes or having their past actions validated.
- J. Czinege, Raleigh, NC

Here are my top ten ways to avoid being shot by Police.
1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not break the law.
3. Do not break the law.
4. Do not break the law.
5. Do not break the law.
6. Do not break the law.
7. Do not break the law.
8. Do not break the law.
9. Do not break the law.
10. Do not break the law.
- Mark, Cincinnati

Please give Officer Roche's mother equal front-page time to give the merits of her son's life. He also deserves that -- people will know him as a person too!
- S. Wilson, Cincinnati

I was brought to tears reading the article today about Angela Leisure. I so respect how she has handled this terrible tragedy. What a great role model for people of all colors. Angela, I am so sorry for your loss of your son. How devastating. You are a remarkable person. Your love and strong faith shines through in this situation. I see the work of God in your life. Thank you for being the face of Christ in Cincinnati, Ohio for the world to see. God bless you.
- Laurie, West Chester

I have been a little baffled and outraged at the same time. I don't understand why a cop would shoot an unarmed man, but, by the same token, I also don't understand why if ordered to stop by more than one police officer you would fail to do so. Everyone knows that the police are there for a reason and are in positions of authority. If respect was shown, the situation would not have happened. I will graduate law school in May and have personally had it tough my entire life. I've put myself not only through college, but through law school with no hand-outs from government agencies, no expectations that others should/would take care of me. Why do some people believe that they are owed something special because of oppression or whatever they perceive happened 200 years ago?
- J. Ratliff, Lakeside Park, Ky.

The good people of Cincinnati both black and white must meet at the table of reason and find a solution to fix this problem. They should not gather to fight, hurt and shame one another... but they should meet with open minds and bring something of value to the table that will cause positive change. All eyes and ears across the nation are fixed on the Queen City, waiting to see and hear what happens next... I challenge the city of Cincinnati to be an example for others to follow. Do what's right.
- W. Torain, Decatur, Ala.

I am amazed at the utter ignorance of anyone believing a police officer intentionally kills other human beings. Wake up people. I am a 35 year old deputy sheriff with over 10 years on the job. 3+ of those years were in the Cincinnati suburbs. I have completed two different state's law enforcement academies, both of which taught the use of deadly force. First of all, law enforcement officers are no different than average citizens when it comes to the use of deadly force. It is authorized only when your life, or the live of another, is in jeopardy. A shooting scene is a crime scene, and is investigated to ensure those criteria were met. Not one of you people were wearing Officer Roach's shoes when he took that life-changing action of shooting another person. I tell you what, I AM GOING HOME after my shift!. There is not one criminal out there worth my life. If Timothy Thomas created a life threatening situation, even an implied one, armed with a weapon or not, his being shot was justified in the eyes of the law. There is no second chance, no putting off that split-second decision that may end your own life or that of another innocent human being.
- R. Zude, Silverdale, Wash.

Toughen civil unrest regulations. Looters should never prosper from their lawlessness. The Enquirer should do a series of human interest stories focused on the police officers who serve your fine city and humanize them. I am teaching my sons that if they ever become law enforcement officers and chase a fleeing CRIMINAL into a dark alley their first responsibility is to their family to come home alive even if it costs the fleeing CRIMINAL! his life.
- D. Hanley, Indianapolis

A lot is being said in the press about the Negroes rioting again in Cincinnati, and most of it is negative against the police. The liberal press along with it's Sheeple, vote buying politicians, and racist or uninformed Negroes, are calling for more controls on the police while the Negroes are using an unfortunate shooting as a reason to rape, pillage, and plunder. I fail to see what stealing television sets, burning businesses, general vandalism, and Negro assaults against white people does to improve a perceived injustice. I find it amazing how this situation repeats itself over and over again in every major city in this country. When will we say "enough is enough"?
- J. Smith, Lexington, Ky.

Councilman Booth's proposal that the police department's deadly force policy be changed is the most constructive suggestion I've heard yet. And the police response that the policy is fine; that officers are adequately trained now, is just another indication, like the firing of the beanbags at innocent bystanders, that they still just don't get it. I am a Caucasian male, quite a few years older than the usual age at which the police think it's okay to kill. But I don't understand how any sane person could look at the record and still say there's nothing wrong. Several years after the fact, I still don't understand how a scared, mentally challenged young man holding a brick constituted any kind of threat to the police officers who had him completely surrounded before they shot him dead. And the police seem utterly incapable of wounding or disarming, even when they're standing behind a stationary victim.
- R. Campbelle, Cincinnati

I think you have to follow the money. Let's go to public information act and see who owns all the property in Over-the-Rhine. Maybe it might be embarrassing? Geez!
- Roger

My father, 2 uncles, and aunt are Cinti police officers. Every morning and night I worried about my families safety. All 4 worked 12-24 hours during the riots and the curfew. All of my family members are very good police officers and are now a target because the mistake of one officer. I have always worried about my father, but now I think I worry about him more now. My father told me the day after the riots started that he hopes he makes it the next four years. I just wish more people would show support for the men and women who have the courage to get up everyday to protect every citizen of this city. I know I do and always will, they have always done nothing but protect me and make me feel safe to go outside my home.
- CV, Erlanger

I was impressed with the articulate opinions of many of the local residents...who felt they had lost something in past weeks. I was unimpressed with the second market activists, who showed up, probably to make bucks on our deprived. What city will they go to next?
- Anonymous

This is different...police scared to operate alone, just as scared as I am to park and walk to food and music in Over the Rhine. Panhandlers, extremely pushy. Not young people...total losers..maybe homeless, maybe playing the system. They probably see the fear in me. Behind each of them is a couple of other losers, trying to win, the younger generation. Not very articulate, low self esteem. Good on ebonics, with no one to talk to. Gave up on education or visa versa. No money. When our amusement parks are begging for help at $8 an hour. Why is that? You know and I know. For awhile, I think we have to give some confidence that the teens have an open door to development, regardless how unsuccessful their parents have been...they need a bite of dignity, and the sweet taste.
- Anonymous

I believe, either right or wrong, If an officer commands you to stop, then you MUST stop. Use the court system to fight back if you feel an injustice has been done. When you run, you are putting life in jeopardy.(yours and the police)
- S. Snyder, Cincinnati

Put the rioters in their place. An unfortunate shooting incident of someone "Running" from a police officer should never be used as an excuse to rape, pillage, and plunder. These people are despicable.
- J. Smith, Lexington

One of the most important points identified in the Enquirer article from several Sundays ago is our community's "state of denial" on the issue of race relations. How unfortunate that we were abruptly slapped with the reality of our community's deep problems that have gone ignored and denied for so many years. It is way past the time for Cincinnati to come to grips with the fact that it IS NOT a Utopia who is immune from the problems that other cities face all over the country. Our community leaders and our local media have a responsibility to establish constructive public discourse on the issue of race relations before emotions take our community further into a war-like mentality. And, it's time for every single individual in this community to stop sweeping these issues under the rug and take personal responsibility for constructively fixing the problem of poor race relations in Cincinnati.
-J. Miller, Cincinnati

My experience during this crisis is a $100 ticket which resulted in driving while black on Kenwood rd on April 15, 2001. My tags were ran by a local Sheriff, not because I ran a stop sign, not because I was speeding, not because of a improper lane change, but simply because I am a black man driving a BMW with a baseball cap on turned to the back. The sheriff asked for my license and ran them through and found nothing, and then he realized that my tags had expired, and I received a ticket for that for $100. I am a business person who owns over 12 vehicles and this was an oversight. My question is, why was I pulled over to begin with as I continued to ask the sheriff.
- A. Martin, Cincinnati

My coworker, kindly tried to hold a door open for two African-American persons today. Their response, "I don't want no white boy holding the door for me", then they proceeded to choose another entrance to the building. And white's are racist? I think many of us on a daily basis endure reverse racism. I have an idea! Let's pull officers out of these areas where blacks feel they are being targeted and let them police themselves.
- Anonymous

Officers who fired into post-funeral crowd should pay victims' medical expenses and they should be fired. Judges should sentence rioters to labor of repairing property. Black officers accompany white and hire more police for foot patrol in communities to encourage better community relations like PAL softball and discourage crime on street corners. Reinstate summer recreational and vocational programs for inner city youth. Elect Council members from districts. West End CC should appropriate money to plant trees at Laurel Homes which was supposed to be done by Genesis Development in 1985. Children need shade trees to play outside in summertime. WECC should demand accounting from Genesis officials before asking for more money. They have lost their credibility.
- J. Kemmerer, Cincinnati

I think a solution would be for black police officers to attend black offenders, and for white police officers to attend to white offenders. This could help racial problems.
- D. Plaiss, Cincinnati

Police officers should not carry guns. Police officers should write down license of the speeding or stolen cars. And send tickets to the car owners' home mailing address. If not pay, boot the car owners' car. Police officers should counsel trouble teens. Police officers should never threaten anyone life. Police officers should allow people to steal. Because it is the victims' fault for not protecting their valuables. They should lock them up. Jail should be clean and less frighten. Should be made comfortable because it is inhuman.
- J. Beans

I am a law abiding citizen and I don't understand the hate and disrespect for authority that seems to be running rampant in the poorer neighborhoods. The police aren't the reason these areas are economically depressed. The people are responsible for their situation. IF you want a better life, make one for yourself. You are responsible to better your life and situation, not the government/city council. I am disgusted with the behavior of the young crowd that destroyed and looted to vent their frustration. I am disgusted with Mr. Thomas's mother for threatening more violence if the police officer is not found guilty and punished. I am disgusted with the black community that defends this behavior as the only means of communication. Get out of the 60's. I am sick of the "race card" being pulled over police action. They risk their lives everyday with the bad element in town to keep peace for the rest of us. Respect that and thank them for that.
- Anonymous

I believe we have two options: Either have black officers patrol black neighborhoods, which I don't think is fair to the black officers. Why should they be punished and made to serve in these communities just because they are black? The other option is to place mini-cameras and microphones on each officer, which would be expensive but at least we would know exactly what happened in each circumstance.
- A. Studt, Cincinnati

I think this whole situation is due to a basic lack of responsibility. First to the man that was shot - why didn't he take care of his warrants? Why did he run? Why did he do the things that led to the warrants in the first place? Why did the mother not take responsibility and make her son deal with the warrants? She clearly knew about them. Or the girlfriend for that matter. She was going to make her future with this man - wasn't she concerned about his criminal history or what kind of life her baby would have with a father wanted by police? And where is the father in all of this? Where is his male leadership in this misguided youth's life? This could have been prevented had either of the above people taken their responsibility in making certain the warrants were dealt with in a timely manner.
- Anonymous

A suggestion to everyone- all colors and positions in society: Go to school. Speak correct English. Stop littering. Don't do or sell drugs. Keep your promises and be sweet. Take care of your children, parents, and neighbors. Try not to judge an entire group because of a few "Bad Apples".Get involved.HELP PEOPLE CHANGE! Talk don't fight. Use angry energy constructively. COOPERATE!! BE FAIR!!!
- Andrea, Cincinnati

You should not condemn the black community for the actions of some of it's younger members during the riots. But you should also not punish the whole police force for the actions of it's few misguided members. Do not forget all the honest men and women that truly "Serve and Protect". They should not be suffering for all of this. If you question police actions and procedures, why don't you go out and spend some time with the police department. There are a few free programs that will allow you to do just that. All the angry comments about "they did this" and "they rioted" are only making the matters worse. Only understanding will resolve the problems we are all facing.
- K. Hall, Cincinnati

The city should adopt a zero tolerance rule for criminals no matter what their color and bust their ****** when they break a law or show total disregard for their fellow citizens. Animals should be treated like animals. If these jerks want better treatment, they need to learn how to contribute to society, be personally responsible for their actions, and support themselves by working for a living. It is amazing how people that are on welfare, live in government housing, and don't contribute squat to the society they live in, can have the guts to make demands on the people that do.
- P. Retherford, Hamilton

Timothy Thomas was not shot based on color, because he ran, or because the type of misdemeanors he had on his record. He was shot because he reached into his waist band instead of keeping his hands in the air. Unless you put your life on the line every day as our officers do, I would not be so quick to judge what happened in that alley. It is unfortunate that this Officer will probably be indicted and made an example of because citizens decided to tear up this fine city before this officer was even taken to the Grand Jury.
- J. Rupert, Blue Ash

The only resolution is to hold individuals accountable of their actions with regard to race. Racist organizations like the NAACP are illegal and should be dissolved. If some one formed the CAACP (the 1st C is for Caucasian) it would be shut down for being racist.
- D. Pessler, Cincinnati

Attitudes need to change in many folks to make progress toward better relations. I think many in the "white" community want to minimize (or totally deny) police mistreatment and racial profiling of African Americans. It's there...how does someone get 5 or 6 seatbelt violations if they are not being targeted? On the other hand, I think far too often members of the African American community make a racial issue out of any white/black situation. If a white officer shoots a black man - it had to be racially motivated. When a black person does not get promoted in their job - the employer is a racist. Just like the boy who cried "wolf", if you cry racism over every incident, even when facts may indicate otherwise, you lose the attention of many who may be open minded enough to see your side.
- RR, Cincinnati

Most of the media, including The Cincinnati Enquirer, has mistakenly and irresponsibly chosen to focus their attention on the Cincinnati Police Department (CPD) instead of on Timothy Thomas. "Mr. Thomas was wanted by police for 14 failures to appear in court on various misdemeanors and traffic charges." This is according to the April 8 edition of The Enquirer. However, since that date, The Enquirer has not examined why this 19-year-old father of one was eluding arrest on the streets of Cincinnati after 2 a.m. on a Friday night... Just as Mr. Thomas could have stood some earnest self examination, so too could The Enquirer stand to examine its own heaping of all of the blame in this unfortunate event on the CPD rather than on Mr. Thomas.
- S. Fitzgerald, Arlington, Va.

It is my opinion that any person that resists any police officer in performing his or her duties and endangers the police officer's life must take the responsibly for his actions and accept what ever happens and not offer excuses and blame it on society or whatever. It does not make any difference if he or she is black, white, red or yellow. If this is racist I guess I'm a racist.
- G. Hartz, Riverview, Fla.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T. This whole situation has been brought about due to lack of respect. If Mr. Thomas had respected the police's authority he would be alive today. If the demonstrators had respected their own neighborhoods and neighbors, there would not have been a riot. A little respect can go a long way.
- Anonymous

I've been reading these post and can't believe the attitudes of some people. "People (blacks) shouldn't run from the cops". These people evidently haven't had the opportunity to see Cincinnati's finest at their worst. They haven't been victims of trumped up charges or had the opportunity to have the cops plant drugs in their cars in order to make a charge stick. When a cop lies it's your word against his and who are the powers that be going to believe? Young people have developed the attitudes they have towards cops and authority because of the unfair treatment they've had to endure for so many years. Of course if you yourself have never had the benefit of experiencing these types of behaviors by the cops, then naturally you wouldn't understand. Some of these self-righteous people need to walk in the shoes of a young black man before they start passing judgment.
- Anonymous

I raise my children to have as many kids with as diverse backgrounds as possible for friends. I will not allow my children to have only one race for play activities and parties. They enjoy what all races bring to the table and when the adults learn to respect the positives and help eliminate the negatives in all our histories. We cannot heal by separating the cities from the suburbs. Flight is cowardly whether it be white flight or class flight.
- Anonymous

First of all, this newspaper needs to realize its social responsibility and quit inflaming the situation. The biased coverage by this paper has been ridiculous and insulting. Personally, I will never buy another newspaper and will encourage others to do the same. Drumming up news to sell papers is one thing, but it is wholly another to destroy the social fabric of a city and disrupt peaceable life for the sake of sales. I think the Enquirer should be ashamed of the way they have abused their influence on the uneducated people of our city who rely on it for information.
- M. Stiegelmeyer, Erlanger

I think that it should back its policemen to the hilt. These men have to work in a politically correct war zone in which anything they do to keep the peace is subjected to wild ideological scrutiny that I find emasculating. Does Cincinnati want a police force or a bunch of hall monitors?
- PDCRARY, Boothbay Harbor, Maine

I just wanted to point something out. I am a white male who is also afraid of being shot by a cop. Its the reason I don't run! Need I say more.
- C. Howe, Cincinnati

Start firing police officers that kill unarmed people. If there had been action taken against the murderers of Roger Owensby Jr., I honestly believe none of this would have happened. It's ridiculous to think that anyone, even a cop, can kill another human being and not even have to justify it.
- R. Hahn, Cincinnati

Why do most people hate the police? Because they are not friendly, they are not nice. The police should be forced to respond as "customer service" agents to the public, with a smile and service.
- Anonymous

I searched in vain for a byline on the Sunday editorial. It was the best editorial I have ever seen in the Enquirer. Bronson's material is usually inflammatory and divides the city. We must get the inner city schools up to par. It is a disgrace to have a new stadium and the substandard schools. The police need a thorough investigation and need to stop harassing blacks. Even middleclass blacks are harassed.
- M. Ims, Milford

I do not advocate violence or the destruction of property but I must admit, I'm glad that African-Americans are not taking this lying down. All of the professional ways to handle police misconduct has been unfruitful and the riot situation was bound to occur. The reality is that many White Ohioans live in denial and refuse to acknowledge the racism that exists including the gross police misconduct. The denial is not limited to police misconduct, but also overt racism at our workplaces specifically in Cinci and Cols. By purposely refusing to acknowledge the racism and police misconduct, this breeds the violence and lack of respect for authority which has occurred.
- R. Collins, Columbus

I am a teacher, and having taught in various schools in various states has given me quite an education! One of the highlights of my education came from teaching in a school in Cincinnati. The school population was 99% African American in both student body and teaching staff. One of the "lessons" I learned was that if I told a student that his behavior was unacceptable in the classroom, I "just wanted to see the black man put in jail." Another "lesson" was that my students would do better in school if they had a black teacher. On another occasion I observed another parent screaming that she didn't want ANY white teachers in her child's school. Quite the lessons for an Irish American teacher whose ancestors were persecuted and starved out of their homeland, only to find that there was no employment or housing for them in this "land of promise" simply because they were Irish--white, but Irish!! Dr. Martin Luther King said it well when he said that we all have to give up the slave mentality. Now there's a good start!
- C. Byers, Cincinnati

Cincinnati police officers did not "murder" 15 black men. They used necessary force against 12. They were wrongfully not prosecuted in 1 case and are under investigation in the other 2 including the most recent. All the news media reports about are the investigations against police officers for the shooting of Timothy Thomas and the bean bag incident on Saturday. What about the shooting of the police officer during the riot? Why is his shooting not as important? Is it because he wears a uniform? The media and public appear to want this to be a black-white or non-uniform-uniform issue. Shouldn't it be a justice-injustice issue, regardless of race or your occupation? I moved down to Cincinnati to attend the University of Cincinnati. I have since graduated but decided to remain in Cincinnati to start my career. Perhaps I should rethink my situation. Lately, I am embarrassed to be a Cincinnatian.
- D. Young, Mason

I have been battling this crisis from within and it has really torn me up inside, because I know racism still exists and I have grown up with it - and I absolutely despise it and will fight it when possible. However, what makes me really battle this issue is a) the "justification" that the rioters have been given b) the lack of support that the police department has been given. It would be stupid to ignore that there is most likely racism within the Cincinnati Police Dept. However, I have the utmost respect for the police department and their willingness to put themselves on the line.
- Anonymous

I have watched the city be torn up. My teenager couldn't do anything on his spring break. Now I am afraid to send him to school. Our mayor ought to do his job. Tell people of any race that they need to follow the law or suffer the consequences he definitely needs to stay off tv he just feed fuel to their fire.
- T. Adams, Cincinnati

I think the KKK traded in their hoods for badges. The Cinti Police is worst then the LAPD. I don't agree with hurting innocent people, but what happened here in Cinti over the last week opened a lot of eyes. I think we need to protest (in a peaceful way), until we have a change... Officer Roach should be tried, and convicted just like the next criminal, and if he doesn't; I believe we will have the worst riot Cinti has ever seen.
- Lynn, Cincinnati

After the city counsel meeting yesterday and what I saw on channel 5, I would like to make the following observations. Although I was not able to see the entire broadcast, (some of us have to work for a living), what I did see was discusting. For the small percent that had the civility to express their opinions in a proper manner, I apologize. For the greater percetage, you are the animals that are creating the problems Cincinnati has today. What I am referring to is the great number of out right threats the city counsel had to tolerate. I have no love for Mr Luken, and in all probability, he will not win any election in this town in the next hundred years. But the racists comments thrown liberally about in the town hall meeting... such as "We" will bring the New Black Panthers, Cripts, and other street gangs into Cincinnati just makes me sick! Have we heard the white people of this town saying they are bringing in the KKK? Are we going to make Cincinnati, the town we are all suppose to love a battleground for a racial war? That simply defies any logic I can think of.
- B. Harmon, Bethel

When police shoot a white person, no one riots. When police shoot an Asian person, no one riots, etc. Why do we think that black people have to act in such a manner. Reminds me of the Palestinians in Israel. Watch on TV and you think that no one works, cause they are always in the streets.
- G. Langseth, Castalia, NC

I know if some Cincinnati citizens had pulled up to a Police line, got out of their cars and fired bean bags at Police officers these citizens would be in jail with million dollar bonds charged with attempted murder. Why aren't the Police involved in the bean bag incident being treated the same way?
- P. Naylor, Cincinnati

I will continue to teach my family to obey the laws and respect themselves and all in authority. Those who break the law should not be allowed always to make it a race issue. Young blacks it seems have no respect for the law. This would not have happened if the young man had been home in bed. 2 A.M. is not an hour for a decent young man to be out. If he had stopped as he was told instead of running the city would have been spared this outrageous behavior that has been going on. Why are not all the black leaders more involved in the blacks every day life, instead of just when there is a lot of publicity and news media ...Lets stand behind our police force.
- Anonymous

My car was rushed by a mob of young black men on the corner of Montgomery Rd and Dana on wens. night. I sped off and ran over a black mans foot.This was not a riot it was opportunism at its worst. It isn't a race war they were looting their black owned businesses (Deveroes), and setting fire to there communities grocery store (Krogers). It just shows how ignorant some people are.
- R. Buchanan, Cincinnati

I hated that innocent people was beat-up. I hated the curfew but felt it was necessary. I have watched police be extremely nasty to blacks. Why? I have two black sons and I am scared about their future here in Cincinnati. I feel the officers that shot into the peaceful protest should be fired. Officer Roach should have to go through a trial like anybody else that is not a police. I feel if Officer Roach gets off there will be more rioting and innocent people will probably get killed
- P. Montgomery, Cincinnati

I have seen a lot of the White Americans including the news media making this whole situation into a black and white issue. By doing this we have the whole world viewing Cincinnati as being this racist city and I think that is false. The same media REFUSES to make note that there were White Americans downtown rioting and were arrested. I would also like to know why during the curfew, in Mt. Adams there were still people out on those streets and not arrested? And why officer roach lied about his ethnic background on his application?
- L. Spalding

As a resident of Cincinnati, I spent the weekend looking at my watch trying to make it home before the police enforced period of curfew. I can in no way condone the actions that I saw from the rioters, but the curfew was another example of the police force bullying the public. They locked us all in our homes because they could. Calls to the police chief's and the mayor's offices were met by the reply that the curfew was for "my safety." It felt that the police force was hoping to anger us against the black community by saying "they forced us to do it."
- M. Beyer, Cincinnati

Left Xavier Univ at 10:15 p.m. Wednesday night. At the intersection of Dana and Montgomery, a large mob began attacking cars with bricks and shopping carts. The unfortunate lady in front of me, made a left on Dana. Several people attacked her cart. One person was repeatedly smashing a shopping cart against her car. My car was hit by two bricks. Amazingly the passenger side window did not break. I understand anger, and I sympathize with the people that has suffered racism. On the other hand, I will not be as sympathetic to the next "life or death" situation I'm placed in. I'm afraid innocent people will bare the brunt of this mob mentality.
- S. Porter, Sardinia, Ohio

... as a lifelong resident of Greater Cincinnati I have been so impacted by youthful African American hostility towards whites and authority figures in general that I chose to live in the suburbs - read that as "I have already left because of the attitudes that lead to these incidents." And I am specifically talking about problems with young African American attitudes toward authority figures "don't touch me, don't tell me what to do, don't expect me to follow the rules...
- G. Howard, Cincinnati

While waiting for a cab at the Price Hill Kroger's, I heard a cashier explain to a customer that the boarded windows were a precautionary measure. White man says, "Good idea!" A little old white woman says, "Oh yes--I thought they were coming up here last night. When are they going to stop? The white guy assured her that THEY wouldn't dare. I had to tell them the truth--if you are referring to blacks as THEY we're already here! If you're referring to corrupt or prejudiced officers---they're up here too! In answer to your question --when will it stop--I replied when your white police officers stop killing black men!
- M. Haley, Cincinnati

I have been reading this message board daily for the last two weeks and I am appalled at the number of people who refer to African American fellow citizens as 'those people'. A phrase like 'those people' is generally used only when the speaker thinks there is a substantial difference between 'us people' and 'those people'. The only difference they have in mind is skin color - which biologically, religiously, logically is no difference. We all are citizens of this country and possess the same rights and privileges. As long as any one of US is oppressed or bound by injustice, WE are not free.
- G. Maurer, New York

I have felt a lot of desire for innocent persons not to have to become victimized by the understandable sadness and anger of the African American communities, and all of our communities, at losing our own sons needlessly. It seems to me that communities in the U.S. are reaching a capability of being able to police themselves. There is only one race -- the human race; and "we, the people" are joined together as a nation. I just pledged allegiance this morning at a public meeting to "One Nation, Under God...With Liberty and Justice For All." Let us not let people who are controlling our lives, whom we never get to see or hear, make us a divided peoples.
- D. Ross, Willows, Calif.

I have been afraid to go to the store (any) alone or with my kids. I feel like the city has become split. That is the only way I can explain it. I have been nervous at night, wondering what will happen in our neighborhood (western hills/green township). I feel like the African-Americans and the white people should work together to resolve this matter.
- K. Luebbering, Cincinnati

Reading the comments about the civil unrest that has plagued your city has left me disillusioned about the future of race relationships in this country. Some of the comments attempt to justify the killing of an unarmed citizen because of his past record. This is tragic, it is the same as trying to justify the rape of a woman based on her previous behavior. Also citing that the majority of the killing of black male American was justified because they were armed is also a red herring. Investigate the number of incidents involving armed encounters with white males and that will illustrate the adversarial attitude that law enforcement officers have toward African-American. Until each side acknowledges their responsibilities this country is headed toward a perilous showdown in which no one wins.
- R. Franklin, Seattle

This has been my initial "exposure" to Cincinnati on any significant level. What a shame that some of the writers really don't see the problem with race in your city, and across the country. I don't know what is going right in Cincinnati, but I do know, you'll be living will the ill affects of this ignorant shooting of an unarmed man for a very long time. So you haven't made it to the next century yet? Wow.
- L. Justin, Atlanta

It kills me to hear residents of Over-the-Rhine listing requests for improved housing, economic benefits, education, etc... Upon being granted the above, what is the likelihood of anything changing? Zilcho. Housing developments wouldn't be upkept, jobs would fade due to lack of skills/performance, and new schools/teachers abused at the hands of truants. Teach your children well, before your neighbor does. In addition, why is everyone afraid of white flight? Isn't that what both sides appear to want? Could the fact that no white residents have been shot by police be the result of lack of behavior that causes such actions? No, it has to be someone else's fault.
- Anonymous

This has brought back horrible memories of the 60s where young people said we won't take it any more and began to protest against inhuman treatment. Because I have sons and grandsons in Cincinnati, it has been a horrifying ordeal not know if it could be one of them next. I thought lynching was outlawed but it seems there is a legal way to do it now. This must stop, someone had to take a stand and say no more.
- M. McDaniel, Columbus

Black officers in black neighborhoods would help! If the officer who shot this person was Black where would we be today would we even have had an issue or would it have been let go? I think with no doubt there would have been some issues but never to this extreme. That makes this a racial issue and the black people are to blame.
- G. Burton, Cincinnati

I am wondering why the media is feeding the frenzy. Why is it that the rap sheet on the young man shoot is time and time again conveniently left out. If it was a white man, with the same rap sheet, and the same cop, I feel the same would have happened. Had it been a black cop who shot the young man, none of violence would be happening. Everything coming out is that the black community is being mistreated by the police. What really baffles me is, to get respect, the last thing you should do is give the police more reason to race profile.
- Anonymous

I've been hearing a lot about "what if it were a black cop who shot the boy", or better yet "you don't see white kids in this situation". When did it become acceptable for cops to shoot to kill, and when did it become white on black, as oppossed to us against blue.
- A. Hawkins, Cincinnati

I don't live in city limits, but feel the affects and feel for those people! Everyone needs to grow up (white and Black). Make this a better place to live and be. Obey the laws and DON'T run when asked to stop!!! It's that simple. Live your own life the way you want to be treated by others around you. This world would be a better place.
- Anonymous

Violence begets violence. It's really sad to see so many "white" citizens of your town actually applaud the death of an individual. You guys need some serious prayer.
- MM Golden, Tallahassee, Fla.

Reading some of your comments I can see why the African-American community feels they way they do -because some of your writers are just as racist as the police officers who hide behind their badges. They're worse because they are probable smiling in some African American's face now and stabbing them in the back. White American have been getting away with legalized murder for years. Just this past Easter marked 30 + years that 4 white men got away with killing 4 little black girls in the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama. But they way some of this people think - they probable think that bombing was justified. Thank God that he is still in control despite ignorant people such as these. Perhaps some of this people need to go back and study their history.
- Anonymous

I feel that the "people" who have negative things to stay about the African-American community don't really know us at all. For those of you who think only black people sell drugs, smoke crack, on welfare, steal from one another, kill one another, have a prejudice way of thinking even about your own race. Whites, Mexicans, Chinese, Arabians, etc… kill their own people, smoke crack, steal and kill one another, on welfare and everything else. So do not come on here judging just black people alone; look at your own race also. We need to come together as God's people and get along in this world with each other. It is not a race thing here; it's a wrong or right thing here, and only God can judge us.
- Anonymous

I understand why black people are so frustrated and why the riots occurred, but I think it's unfortunate that Officer Roach is being scapegoated as the racist officer. In my opinion, the shooting had little to do with racism. I do believe racial profiling led to the death of Timothy Thomas because who gets six seatbelt violations? They were harassing him and as a white young female I'll never know what that feels like.
- H. Schwetschenau, Cincinnati

What I am worried about is if the verdict returned from the grand jury isn't what the public perceives it should be - will it give the punks who torn up the Over The Rhine neighborhood the right to destroy other peoples property in the name of racism. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions and not just the police. Where are the parents of these punks that rioted and destroyed Over the Rhine - they to should be held responsible and they should be ashamed.
- Anonymous

I would like to comment on an incident yeaterday (Monday, 4/16). I was walking down Walnut St. and could hear vulgar, violent words behind me. I turned to see two young black men, one with headphones on, rapping about "niggers" and murdering cops. Well, that certainly did a lot to gain my respect! … Dialog is definitely important. I would like to see more intelligent, hardworking, committed black citizens come forward. The media could help by not giving a forum to the rowdy, seemingly uneducated among the black community. This does nothing but give prejudiced white people the opportunity to say "see what they're like."
- L. Burns, Cincinnati

Well I live in New York and we are having the same problem. The police across this country are out of control and something major needs to be done really quickly.
- J. Chestnutt, Brooklyn, NY

How can black people say they want to come together as one people when all they do is separate themselves in their own group. Isn't it ironic that black people view themselves as a black firefighter or black policemen rather than a firefighter or policemen. It seems they are just lying about wanting to come together as one. If they want to be separated in black and white groups they are just going back to the time when there were black and white restrooms.
- L. Bailey, Cincinnati

Listen to the people (especially the young people) and make some changes within the police force and elected councilmen/women. I thought slavery was over, but it seems like we are going back to that time. Stop telling the people anything and treating us like we are stupid. Make police accountable for their wrong doing, just like normal citizens. If you do the crime, do the time (police or whomever it may be). Police have always thought they were upon the law, they can do whatever they want. Basically, they can and they do. It is not fair to us (the people of Cincinnati) that treatment that we have been experiencing for too long to continue. If nothing is done, I'm afraid what is going to happen. People are down right TIRED!!!!!!!!!
- D. Rogers, Cincinnati

If blacks want to rise up, circle their wagons, and really enact change in their community -- which they should -- they should start with an all-out assault on the black-on-black crime, robberies, murders, drug sales, and other crimes that are consistently of epidemic proportions. This would make a real difference. And that's all the Cincinnati police are trying to do in the first place.
- D. Katona, Tallahassee, Fla.

A total misunderstanding by the white community as to what the problem really is "White Racism". Historically white people have always responded with violence when they have felt necessary. If this were turned around the white media spin would be totally different. The City's white community should get together and discuss how to resolve their racial issues toward blacks. Until then nothing will be resolved. White people are mostly in the position to combat the serious issues of racism, not blacks.
- D. Woodly, Bronx, NY

I think this is the same old same old crisis experiences in United States of America. For example, when Cincinnati was under a night curfew. White news reporters from around the world were on the streets at night unstopped by the police. While, Black reporters were not even seen on the street after dark. Why?
- R. Stollings, San Pablo, Calif.

I think Cincinnati should take a bigger look at the police they have protecting the people and the communities. I think it is time that they listen to what every race has to say about what is going on and try to come to an agreement to change what is being done to harm our people. This whole situation is so much bigger than what the police are doing to African Americans. If we are to look into what the police are doing, then we should also take a look at what they do to innocent people in court room that try to prove their innocence who end up in jail any way. There are a lot of issues that need to be brought forth and dealt with, but until this is done, we will continue to have problems.
- L. Gaynor, Cincinnati

hen I was young my Mother taught me right from wrong. Violence does not solve issues and never will. It just provokes more bad feelings. I teach my children that if you don't like a situation then work to change it. Throwing a temper tantrum never solved anything. It will take everyone from the mayor and police to the community working together to get the community back to a peaceful resolution. Selling out the police is wrong. We need to support them and not make them second guess their decisions and endanger their lives and everyone else's.
- M. Schmidt, Cincinnati

I am 26 years old, and I felt like a little kid trapped in the house at 8:00 in the evening not being able to come and go as I pleased. I felt enslaved like a prisoner and I was very disgusted. I felt that we as African Americans did not have to behave in such a manner as this and we could have handled this situation a little better than this because a lot of African American businesses suffered from this rioting, and how are they going to rebuild from this situation? A lot of these businesses have been around since before a lot of us were even though of and now they are gone and I don't think that was fair for our people to have done so much destruction to our own communities. I also feel that the police officer involved was wrong for shooting an unarmed man.
- A. Rivers, Cincinnati

Stop lawless behavior by the citizens of our community and by the police. Inform the people of how many black on black killings there have been in our community. Talk to minority business owners in our inner city and other communities and find out what works and what does not work. Enforce truancy laws in our school system. Opportunity will be difficult to obtain without an education. Find out what is stopping the African American community from investing in their communities. Bolster home ownership in our city the rate of home ownership is deplorable. Force absent tee landlords to maintain their properties. Force groups like Restock to do something with their boarded up or mothballed buildings, they are an eyesore to the community. Stop the police from racial profiling.
- E. Stoehr, Cincinnati

In my view Cincinnati is a victim of its own success. However, overachieving in the area of crime control subverts justice. Police who shoot first so they don't have to ask questions later, do all of society both black and white a diservice and undermine the very laws they purport to uphold. As a white Ohioan who believes in equality for all and due process, I agree with the black community that there needs to be a change. However, I don't support rioting.
- B Mullet Hillsboro, Ohio

I was visiting my family for the Easter holiday. I noticed everyone, white or black, nervously eyeing each other on the streets. I was stared at while driving through some neighborhoods. I was inconvenienced by a curfew imposed on 99% of the city for the crimes of the few. I think all citizens and businesses adversely affected by this blanket curfew should sue the city and the mayor for false imprisonment and financial losses.
- K. Keely, Ann Arbor, Mich.

As a Black, if you stay quiet and do as told or suggested - you may be okay. But have your own opinion or self-pride - then you're hostile (and this is without looking like a SO-CALLED thug). Those who think nothing is wrong, in most cases, are those who are so use to their privileges they can't see what life if like for others. For us, Jim Crow and slavery have just taken on new names.
- Anonymous

I am an international student. I am from Spain and this is my fourth year in Cincinnati. I am absolutely indignated with the events occurred last days. I can't believe that still we have racial problems in a country that constantly proclaims and its Known because of its "TOLERANCE". I think most of the people they don't want to take part on this mostly the privileged sector of the people in Cincinnati. I think everybody should be part of this, racism is a problem that affects everybody. Something else, everybody is talking about the violent acts perpetuated by black fox, but still nobody yet has taken any responsibility about the murder of the black guy. I think the authorities they have to sit down to negotiate some issues with the black community.
- E. Rodriguez, Cincinnati

I just wonder where the community and his mother were when all the warrants were out for Thomas' arrests? Why did no one stand by him or lead him to court or get a driver's license? Driving a car was a weapon in itself. No one seemed to care about how a problem to society this man was. But now that he is gone they say he was not a problem. He was not the most outstanding citizen in Cincinnati. I would not want my daughter to date someone like that or my grandchild to have a criminal for a father to look up to.
- K. Dehner, Cincinnati

And for all those on this message board who say that the problem is with the rioters and "ruthless Black community," then shame on you. You're so close to Appalachia that you should consider taking a trip there (maybe a permanent one) to bury your racist thoughts and ignorance in a place where they belong. Cincinnati will only change if they do a major house cleaning of all city officials who were born and raised on Skyline Chili, La Rosa's pizza, and that way overpriced ice cream (I forget the name) Cincinnatians seem to think is so good.
- T. Tuttle, Glenview, NJ

What a travesty! Let's get some facts straight. Yes, 15 killings are tragic. But most were justifiable! Ten of the 15 men involved had guns and used them or were threatening to do so, one was wielding a brick against officers and another a nail studded 2x4 board. Another was dragging an officer to death with his car. Many, if not most, of these incidents involved black, or a combination of black and white, officers. And given that the vast majority of homicides in Cincinnati are committed by blacks and are drug related, it is not surprising that an officer (of any color) might feel threatened in a known high-crime area confronted by a fleeing black youth.
- Mike, Chicago

I'm curious as to if Officer Roach has been convicted and I missed it. American's need to put faith in their judicial system because the judicial system works. I find it fascinating that we are all furious at the actions of a man we don't know in a situation we could never comprehend. If he felt threatened, he was justified, and who are we to judge the individuals who dedicate their lives to protecting us? If I were a police officer in this city right now I would be livid; I wonder how many officers have been shot in the last year by individuals of a different race while they were simply doing their job. Why are those statistics not scattered all over the news?
- L. Wimmers, Cincinnati It was saddening to have to tell my child that they couldn't go to church because someone had decided that it was to was more important to punish everyone for the actions of a few. I have always told her that innocent people suffer for those who do wrong. I am a 45 year black woman who lived through the 60's and have experienced out right racism all my life. The things these young people are experiencing is nothing new, just on a different level. It was very dehumanizing to have to not be able to move about when you feel like it. to have someone white tell me I have to be home by a certain time. I looked at the front page of the paper on Thursday and all I saw was "white" faces in charge of black people. Sound like the "Master" left the plantation, doesn't it? Where were the (our) black faces?
- S. Gresham, Cincinnati

This is not so much to do with the current crisis...this is to do with I feel is the crisis before this incident. I have worked in downtown Cincinnati for some time and had always enjoyed the sites and sounds of the city but about 18 months ago I started to notice things going on that truly scared me to the point that I had o leave Cincinnati and seek employment elsewhere.
- S. Wood

I believe that the City of Cincinnati needs to do the following. 1) revise the city charter to allow much needed reforms where appropriate. 2) look at all city services and insure that all people black and white are being treated the same. 3) Be very concerned about the white flight to the suburbs. You cannot discriminate against one to accommodate another. In my opinion the two things people need the most that NO one can give them is common sense and personal initiative.
- M. Daughetee, Cincinnati

There are measures that the city could take BEFORE the situation got this far. But as for now the city need to take responsibility for the action of the police officers. "One bad apple soils the whole bunch!" Until that happens the "unrest" will not cease.
 - Z. Van, Cincinnati

I have been excited to see people finally making it clear to our society's "leaders" that there will be consequences for ignoring racism and police violence.
 - N. Goldbaum, Chicago

I'm offended by the mayor of Cincinnati identifying the source of the unrest as some form of racial misunderstanding or insensitivity. The root of this problem is 400 years of exploitation. A discussion of economic development as opposed to police containment of the black community would demonstrate the mayor's genuine desire to address the matter at hand.
 - J. Hamburg, Oakland, Calif.

As a Cincinnatian of old I am saddened to observe that this is the first time that the Queen City has had widespread coverage in the UK media. Little is known of our lovely city outside Hamilton County and it is such a shame that the world now hears about our problems rather than our virtues. As I read of the troubles I recall days gone by when there were no racial differences whatsoever.
 - D. Sunray, Arundel, England

My many black friends, who have told me about police abuse for years, have had their lives disrupted by recent events. They want and deserve changes in government. My white friends have become increasingly hateful like they now have an excuse to be open about their prejudice. People don't understand that white privilege does exist - it's embarrassing.
 - T. Gibson, Cincinnati

In reference to your article printed in this morning's April 14, 2001 Enquirer, your reporter Rosemary Gondreau apparently interviewed Jim Tarbell who in this article this morning is so filled with so much information and this is information that he seems to be enjoying giving to your reporter to print in the Enquirer. WHY in the precious name of Jesus was he not so eager to give this same information to Attorney Kenneth Lawson and to Timothy Thomas's Mother at that City Council meeting this past week???
 - A. Adkens, Cincinnati

As a Black mother, grandmother, cousin and friend of residents of Cincinnati, I have experienced a gamut of emotions, mostly fear for my son and his family that are residents of OTR. Being a product of the '60s I know as a black man he is in danger. I know violence is not the answer; however, it is the only means to a peaceful end. I am fearful for my son who works uptown, walks home to OTR and is accosted by spineless, gutless coward police officers simple because he is a big, black, dread-wearing male. I am saddened because my babyies can't sleep for the gun fire, helicopter engines overhead, sirens and lights shining thru their bedroom windows. I am mad as hell because another black male had his life taken and the fact that it was wrongly done is being minimized by the perpetrators. I am sick to my stomach because on this Good Friday instead of being able to worship a God that lives we are giving the Devil too much power!
 - M. Young, Chattanooga, Tenn.

The use of violence to stop violence is a long-standing tradition in the United States, beginning with the fight for independence from England. All we see is black and white, but there is a bigger picture; a local state system that fosters racism. Coming from the west coast where racial diversity is fostered and welcomed, I was surprised to come to Cincinnati in 1999 and find a major city in such a state. I had been transported back to the 1950s, so I thought. It should not be about black and white, but it is. I read in the paper where people are saying that there are thugs rioting and destroying businesses in the rioter's own community and how stupid that is. So if the rioters went to affluent white neighborhoods the accusation would be racism instead of stupidity. My point is that it is a no win situation for African-Americans.
 - M. Dulay, Cincinnati

Police should not have to go into areas of harm knowing they may be second guessed if they take action to protect us and themselves. Shame on those leaders that think you should reward the criminal element by pampering them.
 - W. Suter

I was raised in the Cincinnati area and have recently moved to my home in florida. Since my move back here and my dealings with blacks here, I can see very clearly the racism that exists in the Cincinnati community. Of all the cities I have been to, your city is by far the most racist. I believe that the only way anything will be done is if all people work together ... black and white ....
 - S. Eversole, St. Petersburg, Fla.

As my 7-year-old asked, "Why are they doing this and why can't we all live in peace?" She has learned like most of us, that God has created everyone the same no matter what the color of their skin or religious faith. This is a 7 year old saying this. Simply fact was Mr. Thomas had numerous warrants out for his arrest. If he would have talked to the 1st police officer instead of running, we would not have been in this situation. Did Officer Roach feel threatened? I do not know, only he does. Should he have shot Mr. Thomas? Yes, if he felt threatened for his life or others. No, if he was just trying to stop Mr. Thomas. This goes deeper then just this shooting. The only time a police shooting becomes in issue is if it was a white officer vs black individual. The media (TV, Newspaper and radio) are partially to blame for the racial tension because they know this "sells."
 - T. Rapier, Fairfield

We are dealing with a different breed of young men and young women that are tired of the racial profiling in our city. I am an African-American female that was around when the 1968 riot took place. I have lived here all my life and have observed a lot of racism in this city. We must come up with a plan to have more activities for our youths. They have nothing to do and have no opportunities to move forward.
 - C. Peterson, Cincinnati

It seems like we should give more help to the community groups that work multiculturally. I have seen far too many "black" groups speak up for "their black brethren" and advocate more violence. Haven't we seen that violence doesn't help? We all have to live together, so we all have to work together.
 - P. Zellman, Cincinnati

I think the white people in Cincinnati need to make a real effort to understand race relations. White people don't know how easy it is to be white. They don't even comprehend that there is something else out there. Of course, it needs to start with the city administration, and the police department, but it has to trickle down to the masses, or it will never get better. It frightens me that some of my contemporaries (I'm 22) are not trying to be open-minded or tolerant.
 - D. Pontz, Williamsburg, Ohio

I am just wondering if it had been a black police officer who shot the black man instead of a white police officer, would this be brushed under the carpet by the black community? When a Black Police Officer uses deadly force, for any reason, I do not hear cries of protest from the Black Community, but let it be a White Police Officer, and that is all the Black need for an excuse to riot, and then steal goods from stores that they have looted. It is my opinion that the Blacks need to step up to the mic and publicly tell their own community that they are outraged at the damage that their own race has caused, and quell this riot, and stop the assaults on the white Community.
 - J. Finney, Cincinnati

What is this display of violence from the black community showing the children? I have seen pictures of 5 year olds running around with these thugs, I cannot believe that there are parents out there allowing this to go on. What are you thinking? What is this teaching these children? The white race does not owe anyone anything, the black community needs to stand up and make changes, stop dealing drugs, get of welfare and better your lives for yourself instead of expecting someone else to do it for you.
 - K. Thomas, Cleves

Where do we go from here? We have to start with HONEST dialogue. You bozos who keep mentioning the "15 to none" thing as if it's a score. You're showing that you are not clear on the issue. No whites have attempted to run over our police officers, or shoot them, or attack them with non-firearm deadly weapons.
 - SL, Cincinnati

Growing up in Cleveland I was shocked when I first experienced the overt racism in Cincinnati. This was over 25 years ago. In my discussions with Cincinnatians many don't hesitate to tease me "nicely" about being Jewish. I can't even imagine how much worse living in Cincinnati as an African-American must be.
  - B. Hersch, New Albany, Ohio

First, the police can acknowledge they have a serious problem with the way they handle things are handle in general. Let's be realistic, chasing a man that you do knot know if he is armed or not, for minor crimes (though a number of), into a dark alley??? Can we say common sense? This scenario begs for a serious or deadly confrontation. Similar to speeding through high traffic areas at 80 mph to catch a speeder, "common sense".
 - J. Picchioni, Cincinnati

the Black leaders who promoted the unrest, what do you think the white community will think of the blacks after you targeted them during the riots? Your actions will bring more distrust for the black community by the whites, and you're not helping matters by telling everyone to riot, and even though you're not using the word riot, we all know that is what you are hoping for, civil unrest in Cincinnati. I used to visit Cincinnati during River Fest, but I will no longer be coming to Cincinnati in the future because of what has been going on with the Black Community and the Riots.
 - T. Bushey, Duluth, Minn.

Why is there so much tension between police and citizens in this town? I grew up in Cleveland and I don't remember any such tensions like this, and I worked four summers in downtown Cleveland as a teenager. This is all very strange to me. Why does the mayor act so dazed and confused? Why is he 10 steps behind? We need a leader.
  - P. Zelesnik, Cincinnati

As a seven-year recent resident of Cincinnati, and Caucasian, I have seen several instances of police violence, particularly against unarmed blacks, many times ending up in shooting. I've had friends who are middle-aged moms, standing at ATMs several blocks from a marginally enthusiastic outdoor concert, pepper sprayed in the face by Cincinnati police because they were "in the area". Your police are OUT OF CONTROL, and encouraged to stay that way, because the town does not embrace its black brethren, and lives in fear of them. Get to know your African-American neighbors, stop thinking like your German ancestors, and keep the peace but from a position of warmth, not fear. Other cities have done it. You can, too.
  - E. Weaver, Dana Point, Calif.

It must be made clear that problems will not be solved by forming segregated groups. We can only solve racial distrust and misunderstandings by all races of people talking TO EACH OTHER honestly and openly.
  - B. Reynolds, Milford

First, the city has to change the policy of shooting to kill to shooting to injure suspects. Had the officer wounded Thomas he would be alive and there would probably be no rioting. Second, everyone has to work together to improve Cincinnati.
  - J. Reese, Seattle, Wash.

The only issue here is the criminal behavior of a bunch of useless hoods. Unfortunately for the black community, it reflects on all of them. I believe this entire thing was created by the leaders of the black community and now they are doing absolutely nothing to stop it. Fortunately for most of us in the community they are stupid enough to burn and loot their own homes and businesses. The local government did not help matters the first night when they allowed the so-called protesters to vent their anger. What a crock! Where do we go from here? I think we should bring in the National Guard and start cracking down on the ones who are not protesting but burning and pillaging. This whole thing is no longer about a black man being killed. It is just another reason for useless human beings to go out and trash other people's homes and belongings because they have nothing better to do!
  - R. Boyle, Cincinnati

I've only been able to read the accounts online, but I'm very ashamed of what has occurred in my hometown. It's horrendous that rioting was allowed to continue for four days, that police have been shot at by rioters, that more arrests have not been made, and that the mayor makes comments which further incites violence. The citizens of Over-the-Rhine, Avondale, Bond Hill and the surrounding area have proven that they have no respect for the city or its people and should be treated accordingly. More police supervision is obviously needed for these criminals.
  - J. Condren, Chicago, Ill.

Eli Weisel has said that the biggest sin is indifference. You are going to have to do a great deal in the way of caring about each other. Everything counts in this sort of tense situation. If you are simply watching a policeman push someone around, you become part of the problem. I wish you well but honestly you should have seen this coming. Fifteen people should not have to be shot for eyes to be opened.
  - H. Holmes, Bayville, NJ

When people make racist remarks, I speak up. As a white female I speak out in sympathy for the minority community, condemning yet understanding the actions of their youth. I will march in solidarity and offer prayers for an end to violence and the beginning of healing.
  - D. DePuydt, Cincinnati

I feel that prosecuting all or as many people that can be identified should be first priority. The shooting is still to be investigated, however that does not justify beating others which in a reverse situation would be a racial act or hate crime. Also, a bad situation does not give anybody the right to damage other's property and steal. I think by making the guilty responsible for their actions would make them think again before repeating such ruthless act's of total disrespect for other people.
  - D. Wayson, Grand Prairie, Texas

I feel sorry and frustrated. Sorry for the parents and loved ones of that young man, as well as the family and friends of the police officer. However, I feel frustrated that a criminal-however minor his offenses-can now be deified to a segment of Cincinnati's population. This young man was not a martyr, and should not be treated as such. Likewise, the police officer-or the department as a whole-is not to be vilified for their actions in trying to maintain a fragile peace in Cincinnati's roughest neighborhoods.
  - B. Collins, Wilmington, Mass.

Riots in Cincinnati? It amazes me. It clearly shows me that the country is in deep social turmoil and that serious dialogue must take place to find out the exact nature of the problems and deal with them one at a time, peacefully and fairly.
  - D. Palazzolo, Cincinnati

The actions of the roving bands of thugs have set race relations in Cincinnati back 20 years. It is sad that the young black man lost his life, but that doesn't give anyone the right to riot.
  - P. Chambers, Cincinnati

Stop the white flight. Rebuild the city's neighborhoods. Downtown is a pit. Stop the politics and act in the best interest of Cincinnati. People sure are selfish around here. Something only bothers them when it affects them directly.
  - M. Booher, Cincinnati

As a former resident of Cincinnati (now living in New York City) I can tell you that this most recent shooting is all too familiar-to both New York City and Cincinnati. Nothing short of an independent investigation into police practices and racial profiling will suffice. Fifteen deaths of black males over a six-year period demands an independent, civilian review of the policies and procedures used by the Cincinnati police force, particularly in the use of deadly force. Cincinnati must heal itself and rid itself of the decades-old taint of racial discrimination.
  - R. Rathman, Brooklyn, NY

Although I do not condone violence, I empathize deeply with the rioters. The behavior of Cincinnati police in the past five years strongly indicates racial profiling, and African Americans are tired of it. They should be.
  - K. Kelly, Cincinnati

For immediate resolution of the violence, I believe we should pull in the troops, tanks and all. We also need to make it explicitly clear to the rioters that this city, including old and young, big and small, black and white, that we will not tolerate this behavior. There MUST be consequences for their actions.
  - T. Padgett, Cincinnati

The people who are rioting and looting need to be better educated. We need to see the resignation of Charlie Luken and Alicia Reece for their instigation during the city council meeting. Both requested the release of the investigation. Both are members of government which upholds the constitutional rights of others. They know better. The black community needs to take responsibility for their own reactions. You don't see a high crime percent in white communities.
  - D. Ishmon, Harrison, Ohio

We need to have some dialogue. REAL dialogue. REAL answers. Why are the police shooting? Why are the youth running? What does looting, violence against innocent people, burning, vandalism, and destruction have to do with peaceful coexistence? This is not a demonstration. This is a bunch of criminals hiding behind their blackness and using this as an excuse to rob, steal, and cause undue harm to innocent people. Before no one wants to come to Cincinnati, we must talk about this in a civilized manner. The police are supposed to protect and serve. Our city looks like a war zone. This is not acceptable. Just enforcing a curfew that hurts innocent people is not the answer. The criminals must be prosecuted and we have to get our city back. Destroying neighborhoods that are already depressed makes no sense.
  - M. Metz, Cincinnati

I think City Council, the FOP, and the Hamilton County court system needs to make a real effort investigating this case. If this issue is glossed over because of the recent violence, the current situation will only get worse. The officer who shot Timothy Thomas should be tried, just like the rest of us would be. Having a badge is not a license to kill, rather it is a responsibility ""To Serve and Protect"" the public. The rioters and the police have both made grave mistakes. Both sides must make the effort to mend relations within our communities and within our city
  - S. Nicholson, Cincinnati

I think that for the time being there are specific areas in this city that need a little more attention and education regarding race relations and how to avoid getting into trouble. If anything should be investigated it is how a young man with 14 warrants for his arrest is still on the street. It is obviously dangerous for everyone involved when any type of crime, whether it is a misdemeanor or a felony, goes unpunished and left alone. In light of the riots I think this city needs to get tougher on crime.
  - K. Pence, Fort Thomas

I understand the curfew is for the safety of all citizens, but I am very discouraged about the curfew pertaining to religious services. This is a holy week and the attire and the demeanor of people attending services will be obvious to all police and law enforcement officials. This is a time for prayer, fasting and faith.
  - V. Knox, Cincinnati

It's time for re-evaluating the race relations in the city. They seem to have gotten much worse. On all of my visits back home, there has always seemed to be tension throughout the city.
  - J. Dudley, Akron, Ohio

I think they need to get the National Guard in here. I think everybody needs to get together-black and white-and change our Cincinnati police force, because they are crooked and the mayor or whoever's in charge needs to do something re